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This adventure of Fast Forward focuses on fashion. Liza Kindred is the architect of Third Wave Fashion, a consultancy that helped actualize and ascertain the actualization technology industry, and architect of Active Technology. We batten about wearable technology, the role of actualization in design, and how the actualization industry is operating in this hyper-connected apple that we alive in today.
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Kiruthiga`s Fancy Dress as Dustbin - YouTube | How To Make Dustbin For Fancy DressLiza, acknowledgment so abundant for endlessly by the lab. So Actualization Anniversary captivated up actuality in New York not continued ago, but it seems like it was best than a week.
Yes, Actualization Anniversary is absolutely a ages long. It goes amid cities—it goes to Milan, it goes to Paris. But in New York, area we accept we alive in the centermost of the universe—or at atomic we behave like that sometimes—Fashion Anniversary is finished.
We awning actualization technology at PCMag. We awning wearables all the time, year round. We awning actualization technology aback it's Actualization Anniversary and we accelerate bodies to the show. This year it seemed a little disappointing, from a technology perspective.
Yes, that's interesting. Disappointing. So one of the capital things that afflicted this year as against to some of the best contempo years, is that there's no best a affiliation accident amid the CFDA, which is the Council of Actualization Designers of America, who puts on the official Actualization Week. Their affiliation with Intel is not accident anymore.
And coincidentally, a little beneath technology this year.
Exactly. In fact, Intel has attenuated their actualization accumulation and affectionate of captivated them into some of the added groups, so that affiliation isn't activity on anymore. We're not seeing that big beforehand that's at the forefront. But I would say that technology has absolutely chaotic Actualization Week. Alike admitting we weren't necessarily seeing things as abundant on the runways, the absoluteness of Actualization Anniversary and [the event] in accepted has afflicted because of technology.
The actualization industry is in this, some would say crisis, because of this abstraction that's alleged "see now, buy now"—which basically agency that bodies are affairs what's actuality apparent on the runways as against to cat-and-mouse six months or [more] for whatever is on the aerodrome to absolutely appear into a store. Now, bags of designers and administration food are aggravating to amount out aback we actualization article on the runway, anybody posts it on Instagram, all these influencers maybe get samples of the items. By the time it's in the abundance six months later, is there so abundant fatigue in seeing our air-conditioned new designs that bodies don't appetite to buy it anymore? So a lot of designers are aggravating to amount out aback to absolutely be aircraft the clothes that they're assuming on the runway.
That's absolutely interesting. Because you anticipate about the accomplished actualization industry was about about a book aeon and you'd accept the abatement band and the bounce band and there'd be months amid aback these things would be apparent and afresh aback they would absolutely be shipped.
Right, right. So long.
And now you're adage that accomplished affair has burst and bodies appetite to buy now. And if they don't anatomy it and address it now, somebody's activity to archetype it and address their adaptation of it.
Always. The fast fashion, the Zaras and the Forever 21s and H&Ms of the world, they beating off actuality from the higher-end designers and alike from indie designers. And they accept it in the food in two weeks—an batty time to market. They won't see something, it'll be like a absolutely bare slate and in two weeks they'll accept it in stores, which is an absurd affair to do on the aback end. But that's addition abstruse advance, if you will, that is blame the actualization industry out of its abundance area and accepting to change things entirely.
Can you allocution a little bit about that, the accelerated accomplishment archetypal that's gotten transformed. Accelerated prototyping, but accelerated prototyping at scale, area they'll anatomy bags of apparel and accelerate them all over the country.
Yes, [it happens] absolute quickly. And so some of the best absorbing innovations in actualization are absolutely accident on the aback end, abaft the scenes in means that consumers won't see. I anticipate a lot of times aback we anticipate of actualization tech we anticipate of either wearables or maybe a dress that lights up on the runway.
Technology elements, and I anticipate it's absorbing that Intel may accept had article to do with this, accumulation technology into the runways seemed a little affected a lot of times.
Right, absolutely.
Why are we cutting this with drones aback we're amidst by photographers?
Why not? Because drones are there. And I anticipate that there's been an absorbing affair that's happened with actualization and with technology in that for a continued time, the brands that bodies capital and the money that, let's say teenagers, were spending was activity into fashion. I myself, aback I was spending money as a teenager, I was spending it on assertive brands of clothing. I capital some Pepe jeans and an Aspree bag. I'm abiding anyone abroad that was built-in in 1978 is like, "Yes, I capital that, too." But appropriate now, my babe who is a jailbait is not at all absorbed in actualization brands. She is absorbed in cogent herself, how she looks, and trends, but she could accord a affliction about what the brands are. She's added absorbed in authoritative abiding that she has the latest gadgets.
Because it enables her affairs in a way that accouterment may or may not.
And she's able to accept announcement as well. So, admitting afore we ability be cogent ourselves through our clothing, now she is absolute alive on Snapchat, you apperceive or through these added platforms. Dollars are affective from actuality spent on actualization to actuality spent on technology. So that's article that actualization is absolutely aggravating to attack with—how do we attempt with this, how do we embrace this? And so we accept a lot of these slacked on partnerships area you acquisition drones on the runway, or your dress lights up. And that's not necessarily article that consumers are demanding, it's marketing.
Google Glass fabricated its ballsy admission during Actualization Anniversary and it angry out to be a disaster. I ambition somebody had asked me in beforehand whether or not this was a acceptable idea. This was never activity to accord on the runway. And by banishment it up there, it absolutely accent all of the device's weaknesses and none of its strengths.
You know, it's interesting. I apperceive the bodies that formed on that affiliation and fabricated that accommodation and they don't see it as an ballsy fail. I abstruse by allurement how they acquainted about their ballsy fail. But they see it as they capital to analysis the market, and they activated the market, and they see it as a acknowledged test.
It was a beta product. Aback Snapchat did the aforementioned affair with Spectacles and bound demand, it was a beta. It wasn't anytime activity to scale. It was article they were accomplishing to see how it would work.
Right. But don't you feel like Snapchat was a little added bright about that?
Very clear. Well, they had a abrogating example. They had article to apprentice from.
Absolutely. But talking about that, I anticipate there are so abounding wearables these days, to the damage of the absolute industry. Bodies are putting out prototypes and calling them products. I anticipate you apperceive this abounding able-bodied because this is article that you focus on so much. But there are so abounding companies that are out there—I don't apperceive if it's a blitz to bazaar or what it is, but we're seeing companies—and not aloof little companies, not aloof baby brands, not aloof Kickstarters—but big companies putting articles out there: the Google Glass is a abundant example. That was consistently meant to be aloof a ancestor and article to comedy with, but they affectionate of pretend that it's for sale. Do you see this?
Yes. And they try to anatomy up accumulation bazaar address and accomplish it cool. And you wouldn't charge to do that if you were aloof activity to analysis a prototype. Is there anybody that you apperceive that's accomplishing it well, that's absolutely got some abstruse addition but additionally a faculty of fashion, a faculty of account for the user?
I feel like that changes from division to division and from ages to month. Some of the things that I'm best absorbed in, as you know, are things that focus on added active technology. And that comes from a abode of accepting done assignment on wearables for so continued and [having] apparent area it can absolutely go afield and area the problems are. I'm absolutely absorbed in companies that are appliance technology to advice facilitate accustomed animal interactions and accustomed animal lives and aren't aggravating to augment us into article crazy and different. One of my admired examples of that is a aggregation alleged Ringly. Accept you advised them?
We have.
I adulation them.
Yeah, Ringly is ... we've absolutely had bodies on the actualization that accept been cutting Ringly.
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I've absolutely apparent it in the wild.
That is an alarming archetype because there are so abounding times aback we apprehend about things over and over again, you never see that actuality in the wild.
I was abashed to see it. Maybe it's a New York thing. But explain what Ringly is and how it works.
Ringly is [a] notification wearable. Wearables do a actor altered things, notifications are aloof one of them. And Ringly is a beautiful. It's a arena and now they accept a bracelet, and it's fabricated with semi-precious jewels. It's not a plastic, bulky blazon of thing. I about wore abundance today. I absolutely adulation it.
I should've told you to abrasion it.
It's a abundant product. So it has a absolute baby ablaze and a absolute baby cavernous motor. So you, as the consumer, as the wearer, can adjudge what you appetite to be notified about. They assignment with, it charge be over 100 altered apps now. You can adjudge I'm in a affair that's absolutely important, but if the aide calls, I appetite to be disconnected for that. Or the bang-up calls, or if my Uber shows up, or if my stocks tank, or whatever it is - you can set that. It's a allotment of adornment that you abrasion that abreast tells you aback you accept a notification that's important to you. So if you are cat-and-mouse for a car or you capital to accomplish abiding that you don't absence something, you can aloof put your buzz away. You can accumulate it in your abridged or accumulate it in your bag, you don't accept to accumulate accepting it out and blockage it because Ringly will let you apperceive if article important happens.
I adulation that artefact because it solves a absolute problem.
Yes.
Whereas yes, you can get a argument message, but you accept to analysis your buzz and if you analysis your buzz you accept to annal through all your notifications, maybe your emails. Alike your buzz ability be campanology too often. But Ringly you can set for aloof the few people-
Just the important stuff.
That you absolutely charge to get through. And it's subtle. So there's a acumen why you're cutting it, it's not in your pocket, it's consistently on your hand, so you apperceive you're never activity to absence that call.
Exactly. And I anticipate that that's an important affair to attending at aback we're attractive at how actualization and technology are aggregate together. The best examples of that are aback the technology aloof disappears. And hopefully whatever that wearable is, is article that is admirable abundant that you would abrasion it alike if it didn't accept that added akin of functionality. That, to me, is the analgesic acquaintance aback ... I've beat my Ringly aback it's not answerable up because I anticipate it's a abundant attractive ring. If I had this adorned handbag, would I backpack it alike if it wasn't charging my phone? Or whatever that is, is it article that is in and of itself beautifully advised or fashionable or lets me accurate myself the way that I appetite to, alike if it's not accomplishing that architect thing.
I gotcha. Let's get a catechism in from the audience.
Is there any captivation with vibro-tactile, added acoustic transducer technology or belong for acceptable audition broken people?
So, wearable for the audition impaired. Technologically, there's been amazing advances in that amplitude over the aftermost brace of years. I don't apperceive of annihilation in the actualization amplitude or in the wearables amplitude per se.
That's absorbing ... it's a abundant catechism because one of the things that is so admirable about wearables is that we're absolutely starting to break some absolute problems and do some things that are allowance people, not aloof authoritative their already accessible lives easier. So there aren't necessarily things that I apperceive of that are "fashion tech" but there are some amazing wearables that are accomplishing things for bodies that are audition broken or eyes impaired. There are some beautifully advised articles for accouchement with Autism, or bodies who ache from admission disorders, and a lot of those are starting to absolutely attending like "normal" products. The T Anorak is an example, which looks like a hoodie and functions aloof like a hoodie and it's for accouchement that accept Autism. It connects with an app and it gives a hug. So that's one of the things for accouchement that accept altered types of issues that they're grappling with - there's a able blow that can advice them to feel bigger and so they accept ascendancy and they can accept their jacket.
They can self-soothe that way.
Exactly. And while that doesn't acknowledgment that catechism directly, that's an archetype of one of the abounding altered articles that are advancing out that attending like your boilerplate artefact but accept that added added functionality and is authoritative the apple a bigger place.
It seems like there's about two altered paths aback you're architecture wearable technology. One of them is to try and carbon the accretion acquaintance in your clothing, accord you displays and notifications and let you accomplish buzz calls. And afresh there's addition blazon of device—Ringly would absolutely qualify—where you're demography advantage of altered acoustic inputs, altered locations on the body, how you abrasion it, and appliance a altered sensation, appliance blow instead of an aural ringing, which everybody has angry off at this point. Alike a beating that you may not feel in your bag, by authoritative it allotment of your wearable experience, you're demography advantage of a faculty that you commonly wouldn't accept admission to.
Yes. There are a cardinal of altered companies that accept shoes or shoe inserts, accept you apparent those? You accept to be walking about for them to work, but if you're walking about and you don't appetite to accumulate affairs your buzz out to say like aback do I turn, it'll absolutely aloof beat and let you apperceive it's time to [change direction].
We should accord those to anybody in New York City. Every day-tripper advancing to New York City should get those.
It should say airing faster, too.
I aloof appetite to accept an active that says, "Please cull over if you're activity to analysis your phone."
Don't cut me off and afresh analysis your argument messages.
Are there any added examples of companies accomplishing this well? I apperceive Nike's been at the absolute alpha of this amplitude from the beginning, but mostly in agreement of bloom and exercise. But they've spent a lot of time and activity addition out how to absorb technology into all their products, really.
Nike's absorbing because they're abutting it both from a actualization end and from a tech end. In the actualization end, they do a lot of accumulation customization. I absolutely accept on Nike accumulation customized shoes today. They accept my name on them. Liza. That's my brand.
A lot of the shoe companies are accomplishing accumulation customization. And a lot of added companies as well. Not aloof with the technology in the wearables space, but with the association as well, and I anticipate that's area Nike has absolutely apparent [up]. We can get so abundant abstracts from wearables - abstracts that we aren't absolutely absorbed in and don't absolutely apperceive what to do with. But what they've done is absolutely accustomed bodies advice that's accessible in a architecture that works, and a association that they can allotment that actuality in.
Another archetype of a aggregation that's accomplishing able-bodied is a aggregation alleged Wearable X. And I apperceive you've apparent the Natty X—a brace of affiliated yoga pants. They accept little sensors and vibrators. So let's say you were activity to appoint a clandestine abecedary that would absolute your [yoga] pose, and so they're accomplishing that. The pants will absolutely do that themselves.
I anticipate that's a abundant archetype because the technology is absolutely anchored in the pants. And you would abrasion the pants normally. You wouldn't pay that amount for them normally.
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Yes, it is. Although the amount of AthLeisure, if you will, or Athletic Wear, is absolutely activity up and up these days. Billie Whitehouse, the architect of Wearable X, is accomplishing some absolutely air-conditioned and absorbing actuality and that's the artefact that they're bringing to bazaar appropriate now. But she's done some absolutely air-conditioned actuality in the past. She has this affiliated fan jersey, which is altered than the fan jerseys that Nike aloof appear today or yesterday.
It about doesn't assume like a wearable. Nike was activity to anatomy NFC chips into the labels and afresh you'd be able to alleviate agreeable by captivation your buzz abreast the jersey. So you've got a custom experience, custom content, but it doesn't absolutely accomplish the shirt any added intelligent.
It's affectionate of an absorbing idea. Also, the ad for it was overpromising—"oh, if you use NFC to browse this jersey, you're activity to be on a clandestine jet with your admired ballplayer," which is like, apparently not.
Results may alter on that performance.
Exactly. But it's fun to see altered companies are aggravating that actuality out. I do anticipate it's important to agenda that that's aloof a business gimmick. It's not absolutely alteration the absolute actualization or the fabric, or annihilation like that.
Right. Do we accept addition catechism from the audience? I'm abiding we do this time.
How has the accomplishment action and artefact development for actualization alteration now that technology is a consideration? For example, how are articles tested, how do you actuate area the tech should be embedded?
That's a abundant question. By far the bigger claiming for companies that are aggravating to physically bury actualization with technology is the accomplishment process. It's beneath accurate now, thankfully, but there are so few companies, so few factories, that are able to absolutely do both of those things. So it's article that companies, brands, are able to do in house—make ancestor or accomplish a baby cardinal of items, accelerate out a columnist release, accomplish a video, and get it on the runway. But to absolutely accomplish things for the masses is a huge challenge. There are a cardinal of factories appropriate now that are advance heavily, and there are adventure capitalists that are advance in those factories, to try to accomplish that article that can absolutely calibration up. But for now, it's article that's absolutely alone done at a baby level.
Is that an allurement for those factories to move aback to the United States? Or are those factories aloof activity to get up-leveled area they are?
Well, I appetite the acknowledgment to be yes, that bodies will be affective back. But my anecdotal experience, from the bodies that are alive on those and the factories that accept approached me alone is that they are beyond factories that are seeing what needs to change, and are aggravating to move in that direction.
So you're cutting an Apple Watch. Do you see that as a acknowledged product? Tim Cook said afresh that it was the acknowledged watch in the world. What's your booty on the Apple Watch both present and future?
I anticipate that it's affectionate of a allotment of crap. I accept gone to aloof cutting my Apple Watch as an Apple Watch. I'm not absolutely appliance it for annihilation abroad at this point. I've approved all the altered things and I'm not absolutely award that there's abundant functionality there that makes my activity better. I acquisition that it was aloof addition apparatus that bare some affliction and agriculture and addition abode to get my notifications. What do you think? Are you cutting one? No.
I am not. I'm on the Android universe. I'm cutting the Fitbit Blaze. But I anticipate all trackers accept array of the aforementioned problem. First of all, they accept to analyze as a fettle device, which they didn't appetite to beeline out of the gate. They capital it to be this new smartwatch. But cipher absolutely knew, added than notifications, which I anticipate it does appealing well, what does that added appliance that you charge it for? Or is it aloof absolution you apperceive aback you get argument messages? And I anticipate that's still the best affair that it does. We'll see with the Apple Watch Alternation 3 now that they've got the cellular modem congenital in that you can accomplish buzz calls off of it, now that you can beck music from.
Right.
Which I absolutely anticipate is a analgesic application, not accepting to accompany your buzz and actuality able to accept to music and accomplish buzz calls. That is absolutely advantageous and that could be a bold changer.
I'm afraid they didn't do it a long, continued time ago. Several years ago, aback I was alive with Vodafone, there was a absolute beforehand appear attached to un-tether things and accord them their own cellular connections. I don't absolutely accept why that didn't appear abundant eventually because the cellular companies were absent that to happen. I don't apperceive if it was an acceptance thing. It will be absorbing to see what happens, but alone I won't be spending the money to buy a new one because I don't absolutely apperceive if it's activity to accomplish my activity any bigger than it is.
I fabricated abiding that my aftermost Fitbit had a GPS. This one has a around-the-clock affection amount monitor, which is great. I adulation to be able to adviser my affection amount in absolute time, constantly. That absolutely doesn't necessarily accomplish my activity any better. It doesn't acquaint me anything. It doesn't accord me any actionable information. I apperceive aback I've had a acceptable day and I apperceive aback I've had a bad day.
I don't apperceive what the latest statistics are, but we tend to adore the change for a little while and afresh stop accomplishing it. And I anticipate afterwards you do that several times, afterwards you get aflame about a accessory and afresh it ends up in the drawer several times, afresh there's a absolutely aerial barrier for bodies to absolutely say, "Okay, I'm activity to booty the bound on this one."
I appetite to allocution about some of the companies are accomplishing this badly, although we've covered a brace of them already. No curtailment of adumbration actuality befuddled around. Are there any added companies that accept approved to do actualization technology and you've aloof looked at it and said, "They aloof got this awfully wrong?"
Oh my gosh, there's so many. And I anticipate allotment of the botheration is that bodies aren't analytic absolute and absolute problems. That's an affair beyond the board, that's not aloof article that actualization companies are doing, or actualization tech companies are doing. But there are so abounding things that bodies are aggravating to do because they can. My bedmate about says that it's not a botheration of technology, it's a botheration of imagination. And I anticipate that's absolutely accurate because we accept the technology to do basically annihilation appropriate now, but the botheration is that we're accomplishing things that don't accomplish any sense. We're accomplishing things because they're fun. He and I bend at the abstraction of change because I don't like novelty. I like things that are absolutely convalescent peoples' lives and he brand change because he feels like it can be fun and it can add some joy and levity. He's the blithesome one at home.
But, what we're seeing is there are like bodies that are not accomplishing acceptable in the apple or not absolutely analytic those problems. And so, for instance, if I had a dollar for every time a actualization tech aggregation said that they've congenital the Clueless closet, do you bethink that movie?
I don't apperceive what the Clueless closet is.
Do you apperceive the movie? Okay, so Clueless is a cine from backward 90s.
Alicia Silverstone?
Yes, exactly. There's one arena and it lasts six seconds, it's so fast; she's got this computer awning and she's aloof affectionate of like scrolling through her outfits. And the association is that it will accord her some affectionate of feedback, although we don't absolutely see it accomplishing that. Every actualization tech alpha up says, "I've congenital the Clueless closet" and they never have. And we accept actualization tech companies that are saying, "I've apparent beheld search. Aloof use my app and you can booty a account and I'll acquaint you what articles or agnate products." It rarely works. So we're seeing over and over bodies aggravating to anatomy the aforementioned technologies or break the aforementioned "problems" and they're aloof spinning their wheels.
I anticipate it's absorbing too that they're absolutely analytic a botheration that cipher said was a problem, and it aloof about happened in a movie.
Twenty years ago or something.
Vendors aggravating to charm the Minority Report interface because it was in a cine and it looked cool.
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So they congenital it. And by the way, maybe that doesn't accomplish any faculty at all. Maybe that's a abhorrent way to cross information. But bodies don't ask themselves. They anatomy it and afresh they try and get adventure allotment for it.
Right. And they get a little press. And that's, you know, there are some things that are buzzier to address about than others, and so it reinforces that for people.
We do a little bit of that on PCMag.com. Let's allocution a little bit about the aloofness issues because I anticipate one of the abundant things about wearables is that you're accession advice you wouldn't be able to get otherwise. With the new alternation of Apple Watches, Apple said they're activity to be accession affection amount advice so they can analyze anomalies and afresh active bodies aback they accept aberrant heartbeats, which I anticipate could be absolutely cool. But it's additionally this abstraction that we're creating these abstracts sets of our bloom advice and I don't anticipate best bodies apprehend that aback they band on a Fitbit.
What a huge affair that we're wading into afterwards accepting any absolute abstraction of area it's activity to lead. One of the things that apropos me a lot is that some of the bigger adopters of bloom wearables are allowance companies and the affiance is that okay, if you get your 10,000 accomplish or you assignment out bristles times a week, afresh maybe you can accept discounted rates. So there's this affiance to consumers in adjustment to aggregate these astronomic amounts of data. There's no affirmation that we're activity to save money if we let allowance companies admission aggregate about us. And we're aloof giving up so abundant information.
In so abounding altered types of technology, we are the artefact and we balloon that so often. I anticipate there's a ample swath of the customer accessible that doesn't necessarily accept that they're the product. And my achievement is that the bodies who are architecture and designing wearables can absolutely be admiring of the animal acquaintance and focus on absolutely allowance the bodies that are cutting the accessories and not aggravating to about-face about and advertise the data. It all comes bottomward to the business models that they're based on because there's altered means to do it. Some bodies will apparently focus on affairs the abstracts and some bodies will focus on alms accessible services.
And you see the abstracts tech companies array of allocation into two altered camps there. Google, absolute abundant a data-based business and advertising-based business. Apple, a little bit added admiring of alone aloofness and aggravating to accomplish money on the hardware, not necessarily on the abstracts and casework that are activity to get layered in later.
That's a abundant example. I anticipate that it's important for consumers to absolutely anticipate about which archetypal they appetite to get into. Like how abundant is your chargeless email worth?
I anticipate bodies charge to accept too it's absolute abundant like those Progressive [Insurance] modules. Progressive Allowance will advertise you these modules that bung into your car and afresh they accord you a abatement for actuality a safe driver. Your Fitbit and your Apple Watch could wind up acceptable the aforementioned blazon of accessory that allows the allowance aggregation to amount your allowance aloof on your accurate risk, which may be abundant for you if you alive a advantageous lifestyle. But it could appear with a downside if you don't accept a advantageous lifestyle.
Well, and advantageous affairs will hopefully accumulate you healthy, but there are added things that appear alike if you alive a advantageous lifestyle. You can accept affection and do you absolutely appetite to abide in that accord aback that affection happens. You're talking about the affection rate, I absolutely had to stop blockage my affection amount on my Apple watch because if it would be a little bit elevated, afresh I would attending at it and afresh it would be like a lot animated and I accomplished I was affectionate of on this self-reinforcing affair area aback my affection amount was raised, it aloof kept activity up.
That's a bad acknowledgment loop. I appetite to ask you some of the questions I ask everybody that comes on the show. What abstruse trends affair you the most? Is there annihilation that keeps you up at night?
When it comes bottomward to it, the affair that worries me the best is how we are alteration our interactions with anniversary other. Technology is a apparatus that can be acclimated for acceptable or for evil, although it's not necessarily aloof aback we accept bodies programming the algorithms. Bodies accept inherent biases that are programmed into that, so it's not absolutely neutral. But on the apparent it is. And so I anticipate that we're at this abode appropriate now, area the decisions that we're authoritative can absolutely affect what affectionate of apple we're activity to be active in. And so what keeps me up at night is absolutely acquisitive and absent for bodies to accomplish acceptable decisions based on whatever their amount arrangement is, to hopefully attenuated the agenda bisect and action accessibility and connectivity in a way that enhances humanity.
All right. That's why we're accepting these conversations. Is there a artefact or account that you've acclimated that inspires wonder?
You know, there are a brace of amateur on the iPhone that I love. That chat wonder, I anticipate you said awe also, freaking Monument Valley, man? There's two of them now. So beautiful. And the Old Man's Journey. There are some absolutely attractive things that are accident and as abundant as technology can affectionate of accompany us down, I anticipate it can absolutely awe and affect and us as well. I acclaim [that] anyone absorb the money and booty the time to comedy those. They're gorgeous.
Interesting. This happened in the gaming bazaar too. It's like afterwards you hit all the boilerplate segments, all of a abrupt this absolutely new artistic blazon of bold came out that provided a absolutely altered experience. I feel like now we're accepting there in the adaptable amplitude area yes, Candy Crush is still accomplishing very, absolute able-bodied and the Jewels. But afresh there's this added artistic amplitude area bodies are accepting a gaming experience, a artistic experience, on their adaptable accessory that would've been exceptional of two years ago.
Oh my gosh, it's so beautiful. To accept that immersive bold acquaintance like that in your pocket? It absolutely affectionate of afflicted the way that we attending at our devices.
So, and I don't ask this catechism for everybody that comes on the show, but I'm activity to ask you. Is there a accurate actualization faux pas that geeks about commit?
I feel like bodies are assured me to say socks with sandals.
There's apparently addition in this appointment appropriate now with socks and sandals.
It happens.
And his name ability be Max.
Oh boy, Max. I anticipate the affair is assuming you abide alfresco of the branch of fashion. And aback we go somewhere, whatever we adjudge to do with our actualization is how we're presenting ourselves in the world. So I anticipate the bigger faux pas is not demography the time to affliction about how you present yourself.
So, no adamantine ambition there. What about hoodies? What's your angle on hoodies?
I mean, I don't own one, but they attending cozy.
All right. I anticipate that that is the final word. I anticipate we can construe that. Thank you so abundant for advancing by the Lab and talking to us.
Thank you so much. That was great.
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If you're absorbed in what I'm doing, you can acquisition me on Twitter @lizak or on Instagram @lizak, or at thirdwayfashion.com or mindfultechnology.com.
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